on the head. this is not just about freddie gray at this point. this is about economics. 2/3 you go to baltimore, it s like north philadelphia. it s one of the cities that has not come back like new york or some of these other places, washington, d.c. is another one. we have a big economic problem in this country. and a lot of it has to do with race. and we are not doing a good job in our inner city schools. and that s the pass out. so we still have a lot of stuff to discuss that is an echo of 196. and we ought to be using this to discuss that and get something done. and i hope it isn t just papered over with an autopsy report and all this stuff. it s not just about freddie gray. first thing we need is the autopsy. still ahead, the pastor who helped fund and develop that senior citizen center that was burned down on monday night. what he thinks what has been happening. he ll be with us in just a minute. and we re awaiting a news conference by baltimore police coming out in just a
that the police give her to further her investigation. so there won t be any she certainly won t be able to in the same day that she gets that information to supplement what she is doing in the investigation make a determination about whether or not they re going to be charges. and i certainly don t want to give people the impression that our state s attorney will have made a decision by friday. well, that was the wrong tape. we ll get to that. i m joined by pastor donte hickman of baltimore s southern baptist church. so this has been a roller coaster of emotions and reality for you, pastor, losing your center and now being told you have a chance to rebuild it. absolutely, chris. we are excited about what we believe by faith would take place, that as we have sown in tears we would reap in joy. what was negative is being turned into a positive. we were already told by our developers and general contractors that we would be able to restart the building. we already had an architect
a lot of depth to the passion, anger, yes, anger, frustration that we re seeing here on the streets. back to you. thanks, ron allen of nbc news. let s go right now to pastor jamal bryant. he spoke at freddie gray s funeral the other day, his church, the empowerment temple held an emergency town hall meeting last night in baltimore. pastor bryant joins us now. pastor bryant, i ve been so impressed by your wisdom and your prudence in the way you re looking at this incredible event. weren t you under the impression we were going to get a report from the police commission this friday? i was. that s what the police commissioner announced initially, that it would be may 1. so everybody has always been on edge the last 11 days, somewhere between christmas eve and doomsday considering what the report is when it comes back. well, now we re hearing there isn t going to be a public report this friday. it s going to be sent over, whatever they have come up with at the commission for the poli
terms of them encouraging people to respond the right way, what happened at the empowerment temple church with rev rand bryant where you had thousands committing to go to the streets and talk to young people about how to behave. that s leadership. that s the real baltimore. that s the citizens taking ownership of their town. trying to see that people aren t hurt properties no longer destroyed. so i was very pleased. and i was very proud of the citizens of baltimore that became leaders last night. the governor wasn t there. the mayor we heard her voice may have been prerecorded. i know she can t be everywhere at once. but how important do you think it is to have the commissioner the governor the mayor, out in these areas to people know their leaders are there. it s very important to show their face. why aren t they there? it s one thing to stand next to me at a press conference but it s different to be on the streets.
reverend bryant, he had thousands pledging their assurance and go out in the streets and reclaim their communities. then you have the clergy saying just like the riots haven t been since the 60s, our resolve hasn t been since the 60s as well. then you had something else. thousands of national guardsmen and thousands of cops on the streets last night. they had their shields, they held the line they used the flash bangs. could have been much much worse. but do you think that was the right way to bring quiet to the streets? a curfew and police line? well it s very difficult to second guess the decision makers in this particular case. however, i think the tension in this city remains palpable. sorry, the tension in the city remains palpable. i think that the crushing use of force in this particular instance was a bit much to bear. you thought last night was too much? yeah, definitely. with the flash bang and the