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Transcripts for MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez 20240604 23:08:00

Have lost and they have lost badly, this would be a series of losses in 2018, 2020, 2022, 2024. at that point, they may, out of self preservation, decide to rejig or their party, and to rethink the entire cult of personality. but until that happens, i see very little sign that they are going to pivot back to reality. jill, you have a new column for the detroit news, and you argue that each of trump s trial should be televised. and i wonder, as i listen to jennifer rubin talk about the way in which this has not broken through with republican leaders, and with republican voters, to the extent to which you believe that transparency might break through to them and, in a larger sense, help preserve democracy. i do think so. it is not guaranteed. because we have seen they have already lost several elections because of him. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez 20240604 23:11:00

Who do take a different tack chris christie is the one who most candidly has come out to repudiate trump and who has said that he did lose the 2020 election. it s important for him to make the case, directly to republican voters, and not only to attack trump, but to put the other republicans on the spot and say, how can you possibly vote for these guys, pointing to his right and left, if they won t even admit that trump lost the election? how can you trust people who will not tell the truth to you. and i think that could be a powerful message. we will have to see if asa hutchinson, former governor of arkansas, makes it onto the debate stage. but he has delivered similar messages that a requirement of being president is the ability to do tell the truth, to defend democracy. so, i don t know that they are going to make any headway vis-à-vis trump. but perhaps it will shake some of the republicans once they see that there is a capable person, a capable republican, of making the case th ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez 20240604 23:12:00

People are unfit to serve. i don t know that there is going to be a breakthrough. but, it frankly may depress republicans and they decide not to go to the polls in november of 2024. that is another problem for republicans. because there are those down-ticket republicans who will suffer as a result. they have shown absolutely no regard for the republicans who are down-ticket. jill, constitutional scholars michael luttig, and laurence tribe are making the argument that trump is ineligible to become president again because of the 14th amendment, because it states anyone who gives aid and comfort to an insurrection cannot hold public office. quote, the former presidents efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, and the resulting attack on the capitol, place him squarely within the ambit of the disqualification clause. and he is therefore ineligible to serve as president ever again. the most pressing constitutional question facing our country at this moment, then, is whether we ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez 20240604 23:34:00

These imagine i imagine, over the next few weeks, and my hope is that this kind of violent rhetoric, if it is interdicted dive fbi, which is got much better at this, especially since the isis-k of about a decade ago hopefully that sends a signal out to these online communities that it is not okay to make threats of violence, and also some sort of damper on actual in-person sort of physical mobilization s. the ones that are worried about more or the state and local environments, particularly georgia, with all the names of the jurors already being put out there. that is a bad sign for the future. and i am sure the federal entities will have to really step up the pace to try to help local law enforcement. there to that point, ruth, what we are watching out of spreading around the phone times names the ages, the ages, the being called a target list. how does someone like donald trump plant the seeds for that kind of behavior? well, trump is a chaos agent. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez 20240604 23:13:00

Disqualification clause. i wonder, jill, if you agree. how could you disagree with two eminent constitutional scholars like laurence tribe and judge luttig? i think that they have made a very persuasive case. they have laid it out very clearly, setting out why they think it is self executing. in the past, people have said, oh, you can t bar him unless he is convicted of a crime of insurrection. they make a very convincing case that, if you give aid to insurrectionists, which, clearly, anyone watching the news has seen, that that is enough to bar him, and that that is south executing. so, i hope it is not just because i like that conclusion. but they are very persuasive. i think they are two great scholars. and i have not heard any great scholars arguing against it. jill, jennifer, you are both staying with us. next, the timeline for accountability of aghast from trump s lawyers ....

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