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Half a loaf, two slices of bread for the electoral college reform act. joined now by kelly o donnell, nbc senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. kelly, let me begin with you and sort of the white house perspective on this. do they have an end game other than creating more pressure on manchin and sinema? well, they lack the levers of actual power. they can t change these rules? they can t change the senate. the president who is an institutionalist supported in many iterations over the years and publicly embracing this new rule, the new approach to the rule. so what they are kind of ultimately doing is a shaming strategy to say if members whether they be democrats or republicans don t go along with this, they are aligning themselves with some of the most notorious names who opposed ....
Know that the calendar is not on their side. senator mccaskill can tell you how things tend to slow down in washington in the summertime. members go home, there s a lot of recess time, campaigning time. that momentum that president biden had coming out of the inauguration and through the spring could begin to dissipate over the summer if they don t take advantage of what they have right now. well, senator, you heard the man. let s go there. and by doing so, i ll give you the last word. talk about your party, talk about what happens, say, if the republicans don t go along with the 1/6 commission. are the democrats doing enough, quickly enough, taking enough advantage of their albeit slim majori majorities? there are two things going on at once here. there is a very public and important effort to make this bill bipartisan. the infrastructure bill. ....
Campaigning time. and that momentum that president biden had coming out of the inauguration and through the spring, could begin to dissipate over the summer if they don t take advantage of what they have right now. senator, you heard the man, let s go there. and by doing so, a i ll give you the last word. talk about your party. talk about what happened say, if the republicans don t go along with the one six commission. are the democrats, senate and house, doing enough quickly enough, taking enough advantage, of their, i ll be slim majorities? well there s two things going on at once here. there is a very public an important effort to make this bill bipartisan. the infrastructure bill. if that fails, i can assure you, work is going on behind the scenes. to have a bill ready that will pass through reconciliation with the bare majority. so, if the republicans, and republicans know that. ....
Ruled it out but said, you know, we ll go where the facts take us. if they take us there, great. if not, that s fine, too,ing so they are really trying at this point day one not to overreach. but if the facts take them some place and we re still waiting to find out what the mueller report says, but if the facts take them some place and republicans don t go with them, that s going to be a very tough spot for speaker pelosi and democrats. it also, but, again, since we don t know what those facts are, we don t know what kind of case that mueller may or may not build, so we ll just we ll have to wait and see. i mean, i don t like to deal ins if and maybes but the facts do support and if the facts do take them towards the impeachment that means there s facts and something of substance there and if the republicans do not join them for the impeachment ride, if you will, i think that s something that the american people will real very to look at and say, look, the united states congres ....
Say we will listen to ms. ford, but this indicates he does not want to do it in a public setting which is a huge risk for republicans and judge kavanaugh. since she is willing to testify publicly, can they do that? as your previous guest mentioned, on the one hand it s extremely important to make sure that republicans are doing all they can to say we want to hear from this person. in fact, it s a shame that democrats for weeks and weeks and weeks knew of this woman s testimony and knew of her story and kept it silent until the moment it would be the most politically advantageous to bring it to light. however, i do think that even if senate republicans don t go along with an open hearing, they will have the argument available to them. he was already under oath. we had the hearing. why did they not bring it up before the hearing happened? it s the fine line of making sure you want to make sure this ....