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Queen a property. that is undergoing renovations for them. it s a beautiful house in a beautiful part of the country in norfolk. they have that at their use. they ve also got this amazing 21-room apartment at kensington palace. so people can see that. they can understand that they need to lead very different lives from the rest of us, but they do kate and will yom do need to keep a sense of normality. kate needs to be seen in her zara dresses, her high-street fashion, but for people to be able to relate to her and not feel resentful towards her. i think also we re going to leave it there because of timing. i think it s an interesting point, though. the pageantry and symbolism in the recession. i want to thank you and martin. i know we ll see you at the top of the hour on your show. up next here, reporting history. we ll have more news from kensington palace and jim maceda ....

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