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could last into years. obviously an appellate court will have a lot of interest in this case and move things more quickly. we see that happen all the time with donald trump. appeals can take a long time. bill: the point dana made. there is no precedent for the state of new york to put somebody on trial an convict them for misstating a value of a piece of property. this is the first time. if it were to reach the new york state supreme court level, is that republican, is that democrat in a blue state like new york? what s the breakdown. you are looking at democrat judges in the state of new york. at the end what they are going to be looking at are two separate things. abusive distraction or error. the standards you talk about in appeals courts. so the different legal issues and factual issues at play at each stage of appeal, the trump team will bring those up and seek the relief. they haven t found much favor from the appellate courts yet. dana: i want to play this for yo

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