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To negotiate or coming here to negotiate some sort of a cease-fire, but erdogan s already given his answer to that, and it is absolutely not. turkey is not going to negotiate with terrorists because, remember, they consider the ypg, that kurdish fighting force that was america s ally on the ground in syria, to be a terrorist organization. and there are still at least in some parts of northern syria pretty intense pitched battles still ongoing like in the town which is a syrian border town. you can see that thick plume of black smoke and throughout the course of the day. and we ve been here since morning. we ve heard gun battles. we ve heard explosions. in other parts of the country, though, remember once the kurds realize they couldn t rely on the americans, they then turn to damascus and the russians for help. so bashar al assad s regime troops have moved north. there are parts of northern syria where they haven t been for years that are now under ....
That it had recently core kerred. so that message he s sending raises questions and anxiety among allies who have relied on u.s. support in the past. i think it s telling that president trump, or it s at least notable, he did not meet with the iraqi prime minister, who was recently elected. we ve been told that that meeting was cancelled during his brief time on the ground in iraq. and there s been no explanation for that. the message that president trump wants to pull u.s. troops out of syria, out of the working alongside the syrian kurds there, immediately you had the turkish defense minister talking about massacring the syrian kurds, which the turkish government views as terrorists. if that were to take place, that kind of scenario, what would washington s position be? and what message would that send to other allies in other places around the world? it s also noticeable that we ....
President on his order to withdraw all u.s. troops from syria. let s get straight to jessica dean at the white house. jessica, the president using this visit to defend his decision to pull troops out of iraq. and explain how excuse me. pulled troops out of syria, and explain how iraq might play into dealing with syria. reporter: yeah, that s exactly right, dana. we were hearing from the president, speaking to reporters who were traveling with him. he talked both about iraq and about syria. as for iraq, he said we re not planning to withdraw any troops from here right now. in fact, he talked about using that nation as really a base to engage if they need to go back into syria. and then he really doubled down on his plan to completely withdraw troops from syria, saying that, quote, people are going to come around to my way of thinking. that s how he was explaining it when he was talking about it on his overseas trip today. of course, the secretary of ....
Troops in afghanistan. we have to protect our embassy, we have a counterterrorism platform that s useful in pakistan. et cetera. so obama didn t go down that road. and, in fact, trump is you know, if the reports are correct, we re going down to 7,000, that s not a particularly large force, obviously, but enough to protect the embassy. enough to carry out some kind of terrorism operations. and it is his purgative as commander in chief to do this. you re a former intelligence official, operative, whatever you want to call it. it s probably fair to say that even if u.s. troops will not be in syria, we will still have a quiet presence. we will know what s happening on the ground in syria. but is that enough? no. you can t collect intelligence from iraq. you need people on the ground. you need to work with the kurds. they are the ones doing most of the collection. you need laser targeting for the ground from the air force or the drones and the rest of it. it can t be done. ....
Haven t heard any mention of afghanistan. that s america s longest-running overseas conflict. some 17 years. there are 14,000 u.s. troops there that the white house has signaled it wants to cut in half. but there was no mention, no advanced warning, to nato partners. dozens of them in afghanistan working alongside the u.s. and when president trump talks about burden-sharing with allies and they need to pay, some of them are. but they re not being brought in, into the decision making process when president trump wants to pull troops out. yeah. the allies aren t being brought into the decisionmaking process. congress. his own cabinet. there s a pattern here, for sure. ivan, thank you so much for that reporting. certainly based on your real world on the ground experience. back here with our panel. political panel. david drucker, you tweeted something i thought was very succinct and to the point. which is the president rarely ....