-as a former fbi agent and chairmrman of the e house inintelligencece committeee, i i had oversisight of allll6 of our n nation s inintelligee agencicies. my namame is mike e rogers. i had acaccess toto classifieied informatatn gathered b by our opereratives- people w who risked d everythg fofor the unitited statess and ouour familieses. yoyou don t knknow their f fs or t their nameses. yoyou don t knknow the reaeal ss from thehe people who lived d the fear and the e pressure - until . -therere s not a f fear as i in petrifieied. it s m more like m make sure u do e everything g you need t t. and d don t haveve any mistats oror failures s be becauseseu dididn t take e that extrara s. you u weren t wiwilling to pt in t the time. fefear of faililure isis motivatining for me.. ifif you faill in a c counterintetelligence a, it can h have nanational impmplications.. failurure at that t level. cacan mean losost lives. it s s a very imimportant vave toto me keeeeping peoplple , k
now that we had the well, we continue every technique that we ve been using, waiting for the next time he steals information and tries to send it to china. but you have to be patient for your opportunity. you don t know if it s going to be next week and you have to be ready for that, or it could be next year. we received a phone call from the surveillance personnel that they had some video of chi mak and rebecca sitting at the dining room table copying discs. that was the day we knew, okay, big break. something is going on here. in the surveillance tape we saw of chi mak and rebecca making a disc, chi mak was making the disc, but rebecca was constantly over his shoulder nagging him about what he was doing wrong or how he could do it better. then it was quickly
up our affidavit for the fisa court. the foreign intelligence surveillance act allows national security organizations to conduct surveillance to detect foreign governments spying on the united states or committing terrorism. it s a court, much like criminal court. so in order to get the ability to monitor somebody s telephone, you have to have a warrant. and in it, it explains that i believe chi mak is committing espionage for the following reasons. after five months on the case, we got authorization to tap his telephone lines. and to go inside of his house and do a covert search. we were listening to every phone call that came in out of that house. which led us to learn about a trip he was taking to alaska. when we found out chi mak and rebecca were going to alaska, i believe the first thought in everybody s mind was, he must be going operational. potentially meeting a handler to
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evidence we had because it showed he was still spying for china. finding the tasking notes in his trash allowed us to use more obtrusive investigate of tools. during this investigation, chi mak and his wife took three vacations which gave us opportunities to go into the home. the first opportunity, we went into the home and saw all the paperwork he had stacked up for work. the second opportunity we went in, we planted microphones in the house. the third time we went in is when we put cameras in the house as well. installing closed circuit television cameras was a challenge. you can imagine how well you you know your own room. to be able to go into that room and install something as invasive as the equipment needed to record closed circuit tv, it s difficult. you watch their daily life, what was going on at home. and how they dealt with each other as husband and wife was really unusual. we never saw an inkling of affection between them. there was no hand holding, pat