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The anti muslim violence. so if it s a bjp ruled state, which is unfortunately most so, if it s a bjp ruled state, which is unfortunately most of the states in india, one needs to be cautious as a journalist, one needs to tread cautiously. and i have seen what happens, because i remember i was in kashmir two years ago, where i sneaked in a journalist from the new yorker, and the cops from kashmir actually went on twitter and said, why should rana ayyub not be arrested? , and bjp leaders going on twitter and saying that this woman should be arrested asap. so keeping that in mind, i think my lawyers have advised me to be a little low profile. well, you re on hardtalk, so you re not that low profile, and we re glad you re here. but let s just pick up on what you just said about two young journalists being detained for what the authorities alleged was inflammatory tweets, inflaming an inter communal situation in one of india s states. you, too, are accused of inflammatory social media ....
Page, i m happy to write. having said that, there are publications, there are independent publications like the scroll wire, article 1a, caravan that are doing stunning journalism but, again, with a very niche audience. by and large, the majority of the mainstream media is still publishing newspapers that is palatable for an audience that is riding high on hate the hate wave in india that is all pervasive. this hate that has taken almost every sector, almost every class, caste, which has actually resulted in mr modi s popularity. at a very recent rally, mr modi s home minister, amit shah, and one of his chief ministers, yogi adityanath, said that hindus should be proud and happy that after mr modi came to power, the appeasement of those who used to offer namaz has stopped. and you see the crowds cheering for it. india, as you ve indicated, does, right now, have a significant problem ....
I cannot develop amnesia. that s not detaching, i think. i also believe that i will not develop amnesia over a leader s pastjust because he has become the prime minister of the country, because those who were killed under his watch have still not been given justice, and a criminal does not cease to be a criminal because the media around that time is trying to gloss over the person s past. so that s me, as a journalist, stephen. yeah. powerful words. i think anyjournalist around the world watching this would echo your thoughts about the importance of bearing witness and truth telling. ijust wonder why it is that so manyjournalists and media outlets in india do not appear to share your interest in digging deep into the past of mr modi in gujarat, and indeed digging deep into the. ..the way the government has handled certain challenges in the.in the present day, ....
Well, unfortunately, that seems to be the situation. the first time a case was filed against me, injune, my lawyers had to get a transit anticipatory bailfor me to travel to uttar pradesh, where the case was booked against me. if you look at what s happening in india, in the last one week itself, two young journalists, a 21 year old who just tweeted about the anti muslim violence in the bjp ruled state of tripura, were arrested in assam for just tweeting about that news story and commenting about the anti muslim violence. so if it s a bjp ruled state, which is unfortunately most of the states in india, one needs to be cautious as a journalist, one needs to tread cautiously. and i have seen what happens, because i remember i was in kashmir two years ago, where i sneaked in a journalist from the new yorker, and the cops from kashmir actually went on twitter and said, why should ....
Voices will be left. if the government is really concerned about communalisation and polarisation, it should start censoring its own spokespersons and ministers who are at the forefront of spreading fake news in india. and every day you see them spewing hate and venom and fake numbers, talking about, for instance, talking about how the muslim population of india will explode by 2050, how muslims are taking over various states. that is at the core. if mr modi who has since 2014 not taken a single press conference and addressed questions of the media if he could silence those in his government from hate mongering, we would be in a much better place. rana ayyub, we have to end there. i thank you very much indeed forjoining me on hardtalk. thank you. thank you so much, stephen, for having me. ....