Vladimir milov in vilnius, lithuania. Welcome to hardtalk. Great to be with you. Thanks for having me. Well, its a pleasure to have you on the show. You know as well as i do that this war has now lasted for more than 18 months. It has turned into an attritional fight, which is proving to be terribly, horribly costly on both sides. Would you accept that that suits Vladimir Putin right now better than ukraine . On one hand, yes, because putin wants western patience and ukrainian patience to be exhausted and he still has a lot of resources to fight a lengthy war. On the other hand, there are a lot of bad news for putin. His army and personnel is becoming exhausted and depleted, too. Resources are also not endless. And here is where the western sanctions are working. So in the longer run, i think the odds are that ukraine is set finally to win this battle. But we need patience and we might see a protracted conflict. And patience is the key word here. Just on the question of the levels of s
Mustafa suleyman, welcome to hardtalk. Thanks for having me. Its a great pleasure to have you here. Now, you, in your career, are wrestling with the complex relationship between us humans and increasingly intelligent machines. It seems, if ive got it right, that youre not so much worried about the machines youre worried about us, our wisdom. Is that right . Its a great way of putting it. I mean, i think the great challenge we have is one of governance. Containment means that we should always be in control of the technologies that we create. And we need to make sure that they are accountable to us as a species, they work for us over many, many decades and centuries, and they always do way, way, way more good than harm. With every new type of technology we have, there are new risks risks that, at the time we experience them, feel really scary. Theyre new. We dont understand them. They could be completely novel in ways that could be very harmful. But thats no reason to feel powerless. The