claims, they dehumanize people in a way that it almost legitimatizes for the believers violence. kind of like what we saw on january 6. many of these forums hold pelosi almost as if she s this demonic-type figure and stealing an election is one of the least kind of concerning things she s done. so much is alleged about her online and it festers. i also think people talk about this as if it s either an online radicalization issue or it can be a mental health issue. but they often just feed into each other. they re not mutually exclusive. you re right indeed. all right, everybody stand by. i want to bring in democratic congresswoman jackie speier of california and get her reaction. congresswoman, thanks so much for joining us. what s your reaction to the new charges this attack suspect now faces, including attempted murder, among them in addition to the federal charges announced earlier in the day.
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it means that it has changed over time and the sort of what we call the you know, the isolated or lone wolf terrorism is sort of part of the isis strategy. still occurs in the west. we saw it recently in france just a week ago. but nonetheless, that s a manageable threat. i would call what the united states is what donald trump is saying the united states wants to do less of a vacuum and more of an abdication. you re handing it to russia and syria. if what trump says is true that we are going to abdicate and hand over parts of parts of syria will be stabilized, but there will be isis fighters, where are they going. and of course the refugee problem. it s a problem for europe, but the radicalization issue is one that concerns all of us. now juliet, there are some people who are listening to this conversation about the inability or the i guess the rejection