biden/putin summit that this topic came up, they walked away and thought it would do something because immediately we saw more ransomware attacks. immediately we saw russian intelligence agencies hacking in, attempting to get into the republican national committee. so toss not a deterrent. he has no reason really to stop what he is doing because he is suffering no cost. establishing deterrence in cyber space means you have to give some sort of a cost to your adversary so they ll quit doing it. i really don t see vladimir putin backing down at all or stopping at any point until he knows what the line is that the u.s. will defend, and right now i don t think anyone knows what that line really will come down to. daniel, do you know what the line is at this point coming out of the biden administration, how far they re willing to go? well, they don t want to have the same exact red line that they did, or a similar one they did with syria, because obama
either doesn t believe in the power of his words i doubt that very highly considering his political success. so, is actually trying to use words like this, i think it shows you his mentality, what he traffics in, the kind of information that s coming in to him. and i can t disconnect that trump frame of mind and mentality from what we see from the likes of marjorie taylor greene today, talking about the vaccine and saying we re not going to have your sort of science brown shirts making a nazi reference in her displeasure with the biden administration s effort to get all of america vaccinated. there s a direct line between that trump mentality and somebody who is a trump follower like marjorie taylor greene making those kind of comments. there s also a direct line between public comments by trump in which he praises someone like vladimir putin, who we know
and would we know about it if it happened necessarily? we may not know about it because putin and russia may not want to admit that we found a weak spot and took advantage of it. it could range from everything such as taking the infrastructure for this particular ran some ware syndicate off-line, potentially going after their cryptocurrency stores. it could also be sending a warning in very subtle and not-so-subtle ways that we may not actually know about. beyond specific cyber options, there are other sanctions, et cetera, that this administration, previous administrations have used considered and through multiple administrations of both parties hadn t worked. china and russia have kept up these kind of attacks on a grand scale. should economic sanctions of a greater degree be under consideration, something that would really hurt russia s
provider of the republican national committee, though it s not known specifically if the rnc was targeted. the rnc says no data was compromised. there was also last friday s attack that hit kaseya that has affected 1500 businesses around the world. joining me, theresa peyton, former white house officer under george w. bush. this is after the biden/putin summit where biden publicly said he warrant putin, don t attack again. if you do, we ve got capabilities. he winked and nodded as he said that. as you see these ransomware attacks, is this putin testing biden? this could very much be a test. putin always categorically denies he has direct involvement. that s that plausible deniability factor that he
breached, hundreds of thousands of companies in the approach that they use as they still have a multiplier by attacking what is called the supply chain vendor, they effectively have enabled criminal access to hundreds of thousands of targets and that can be potentially destabilizing. sandra: we really appreciate you joining us following up with you, had you on the last time one of these attacks took place. we will have you back, thank you. obviously a very clear description as the threat that russia poses to our country right now that you described after biden said this is biden after the last putin summit. the u.s. response to another attack, it s really important to hear in his own words. listen. responsible countries need to take action against criminals who conduct ransomware activities on their territory. how would you feel if ransomware