To overturn the lelection is within his rights of free speech, saying it all comes down to the way he asks. When it comes to political speech, you cannot only advocate for a position, but you can take action, you can petition. You can ask even your Vice President to pause the vote. But you cant break the law, which is what this indictment alleges. What was the ill tell you what the indictment says. The indictment says that he attempted to cause actions like approving fake electors, Opening Sham Fraud Investigations and obstructing the certification of the lelection. Whether he can prove that, thats going to happen in the trial. Im just saying whats in the indictment. Let me take the first thing, the question about electors. Alternate electors are used in every four year cycle, okay . T none of those electors were counted. Vice president pence was completely aware of the nature of the they werent counted because mike pence rejected the scheme. Thats why they werent counted. Absolutely.
vice president do this and the vice president didn t read it that way. he might try to cast this as aspirational as a public relations argument. it s not going to work in court. as it pertains to mike pence, he left open the possibility that he would testify if necessary. take a listen. i have no plans to testify but, look, we ll always comply with the law but, look, i want to tell you, i don t know what the path of this indictment will be. the president is entitled to a presumption of innocence and to take his case in court. there are profound issues around this pertaining to freedom and speech and the rest and independent confident his lawyers will litigate all of those things. how might tense pence s testimony undermine trump s
of the republicans that first came out supporting donald trump so you re lumping me in with the witch-hunt of donald trump. it s an interesting theory, a good public relations argument. but, anyone causally reading this indictment against him, and it s publicly available, will see that this is anything but a witch-hunt. and this is anything but just some bad management of money during a campaign. if it s true that these campaign funds were used for such personal expenses as ski trips and dinners and drinks and fun that were completely unrelated to the campaign, and they are if it s a family vacation, that s not part of your campaign. i m sure joe can tell us all about that, because he had to campaign at one point. and anyone who s been involved in the campaign can know there s a bright line between your personal family expenses and vacations and fun and campaign-related expenses. and this one appears to be a bright line. yeah, willie, you never come close to that line for two things,