Exploring issues that affect leaders in the U. S. And around the globe. Penalties are even higher, the evidence is even more volume nous, or will he cut his losses, cut a deal and tell what he knows if anything about potential collusion between donald trump and the Russian Election interference effort . Let me bring in the panel now. I want to get to my legal experts, more of my legal experts. By the way, a little more breaking news, the Cohen Hearing is officially over. Sentencing is scheduled for December 12th for his guilty plea at 11 00 a. M. Hes out on 500,000 bail which was cosigned by his wife and a second person. Were going to go there. But Donald Fryman is is on Air Force One on his way to West Virginia to prepare for a rally for the West Virginia senate race. How is he feeling . We think hes emotionally and politically in as much of a corner psychologically as hes been since hes become president of the United States. Hes worked very hard to get at
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looked strong, this whole case is a fraud, he shouldn t be up for these charges, whereas cohen looks like a rat today and he looks weak and he s in the courthouse emotional. i think that will play into how donald trump reacts. paul manafort playing not for a hung jury, for a pardon. and he s kichbconsistently play that role. let me go to two of my legal experts here. gene rossi, former u.s. attorney in virginia. you got this conviction as the prosecutor. do you how open would you be if manafort says could we cut a deal? i would take it in a heartbeat. and i ve had this happen yes, i would. and i ll tell you why. mr. manafort is not a good man. he s now a greedy and convicted man. and having said all that, as a
to the white house the white house legal team took pity on me after i attempted to explain why trump s name wasn t mentioned. so he s calling in real time. it is in fact that s why we have mimi rocca. it s generally not done. but he added a political twist here. because he said it s not appropriate for a prosecutor to malign someone who is not before them. this is an effort tonight anti-comey. to not shoot your mouth off and be political but to play this spriktly by the book. that s what the prosecutors were doing there, they were being restrained. the president has tweeted. just landed in virginia. big crowd. you re seeing him walking down now. shelley moore capito. look forward to seeing the big crowd. and hashtag maga. it s going to be an epic night from the president we think. absolutely.
the district of columbia, get acquitted on all of the charges there, then get all of the charges on which you re convicted in virginia overturned on appeal is approaching absolute zero. so if he s keeping his options open i think it s a wise thing to do but it may be just a throwaway line. what do you do with the pardon issue as a prosecutor? that that s sort of hanging up there. not many clients that you successfully convict, you know, have a pardon they might be able to pull out of their back pocket pretty quick. i would say there s almost nothing you can do. you have no control over it. it s the unfettered right of the president to pardon whoever he wants to pardon whenever he wants to pardon them. and so while you know it s in the background it s hard to control things you can t control, chuck. i would put it aside. we are i think about to move we are awaiting a press conference in new york city on
but it s not all right, gene. let me go to your boss. your former boss here. chuck rosenberg. how much you know you re going to put manafort on trial again in the district. you know he s going on trial again in a few weeks. so if he s coming for a deal how much hardball do you play? well, you have a lot of leverage now. and gene is right. this is the type of case in which you would take cooperation even after a guilty verdict. and there s another factor here too, chuck, which i think is important. mr. manafort didn t testify at trial. meaning i think he didn t testify falsely. meaning i think that he s still potentially valuable as a witness. he didn t concoct a false story. he didn t commit perjury on the stand. he remains silent. of course that s his right to do so. but from a prosecutor s standpoint, if he has information we want it. particularly if he s going to tell it to us truthfully and