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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20191128 01:25:00

For property tax valuations. the others were documents that were disclosures that were made when trump s debt became part of commercial backed securities. and so there are disclosures in both of those, and some of them there s some differences in how they are put together but there are some numbers that should be very close, and what i found were really keen numbers that were very far off. trump s business told the lender, this is when they want to inflate the value, right? it s in their interest and valued to be as high as possible that 99% and 98% of the towers commercial space was occupied. in tax filings, however, trump filings said the business was occupied at 83% in 2012, a year later. so they re telling two different people two different rates that should be the same. yes. and the follow up occupancy was also 83% for the property tax. it wasn t that possibly they

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20191128 08:24:00

It was my experience that mr. trump inflated his total assets when it served his purposes such as trying to be listed amongst the wealthiest people in forbes and deflated his assets to reduce his real estate taxes. we ve known for a while that trump uses different valuations for different purposes but a new exposé shows in black and white just how that worked with trump tower. heather vogel got her hands on business documents that show essentially two sets of books for the property. she joins me to explain her reporting. the documents i got, there s two sets. one of them is property tax records that i got from a new york city agency that handles appeals for property tax valuations.

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