heard that information with the written readout of that, yes. you testified and i quote, it was clear that the members of that delegation were empowered by the president and it s what you testified and you also said, and i quote, as a practical matter it would be for ambassador volker and ambassador sondland presumably working with taylor doing the continual effort here. that director sondland had direct access with the president. on the few occasions, he would often let him know that he wasn t in direct contact and that s all i knew. you reached that information directly from ambassador sondland. in previous occasions, yes. not related to this particular matter. anything about ambassador sondland s role that struck you as problem attic. based on what i knew at the
or observed? i was surprised by what i saw in those reports in the media. i wanted to ensure if i heard the testimony, ambassador hale and you believe it was, according to what you found out from the may 23rd meeting to vote on ukraine approximately see, and none of thaw struck you as problemattic. is that correct? yes. you are the undersecretary for political affairs and you testified that in that capacity you are responsible for the management of the united states bilateral relations with, and i quote, every country in the world that we recognize for the management of our policies towards those countries as well as our relationship with policies as they relate to multilateral organizations. does that include u.s. policy
or coming out from the giuliani side. i don t think it is accurate. there is a series of tapes, more than one tape. that is why i called for the release back in late may, the clock is running out on mr. trump. i think this is going to be very, very be problemattic. the tapes am speaking moments ago, and calling cohen weak. if you spend five minutes
not the case, okay. so looking at that reaction you can only draw one of two conclusions. either, you know, he is lying and trying to sort of play the victim and demonize the protesters, or let s say he believes it, then he doesn t understand what s going on in the streets. there s a lot of tension, and it doesn t have to get violent but it could get violent. that s what we re all trying to avoid. that s what president obama is trying to avoid, the media would try to avoid if we had a role in it. what donald trump is not responding to that or even acknowledging that that exists and that s problemattic. only 48 hours after he said he wants to be president for all-americans, this is his first test and he is failing the test. these are americans, donald trump. if you want to be president for these people, you have to first acknowledge their right to have these feelings and to have these grievances. for those joining us, it is 3:30 eastern time. we have breaking news as you can see on th