Into the impact that the ban on homosexuality in the armed forces between 1967, when homosexuality became legal, and 2000, when homosexuals were allowed to serve openly in the armed forces, is published shortly. it s expected to result in compensation and an official apology from the government to all the lbgt+ service personnel. ahead of that, a study by northumbria university has revealed the lifelong suffering the ban caused. for many who suffered appalling discrimination, including being hounded by the military, and the aftermath people who lost theirjobs, homes, careers, and their health the independent review has been a long time coming. we re joined now by andrew hastle, former raf doctor, and craig jones, the executive chair of the fighting with pride charity. thanks both very much for coming. andrew, first of all, what was your first experience in the military? you join when you are 19. what was it like early on? it like early on? yes, not quite 40 ears it like early on?