anti-vax group. they ve banned groups saying the vaccine that s poison. don t take the vaccine. instead, anti-vaxxers don t give up. they move on to the next thing. they ve reframed their group names around these alternative therapies. the ivermectin groups have tense of thousands of followers in there and even though the ivermectin isn t working in these groups and they realize they need other stuff to make it feel like they re treating themselves, the groups are still called ivermectin groups but largely hubs for anti-wax groups. you find most of the conversation on the civilian internet. ben collins, resident expert on the civilian internet. thanks for that reporting. commend folks to reads it on nbc.com. thank you. looking at my clock. it s 3:46 eastern time. 12:46 pacific time and in some time in the next 15 to 20 minutes we expect to get the formal, official results of that
whether there might be bad actors spreading these messages? reporter: absolutely bad actors. some of the new alternative therapies they re bringing up were used early in the pandemic by anti-vaxxers, like long-term anti-vaxxers, pre-pandemic anti-vaxxers. for example, they are telling people, shocking, they re telling people to neb beaux lies hydrogen dioxide. a technique pushed by one of the big anti-vaxxers, disinformation dozen talked about by the white house a few weeks ago. pushed last year. all of this stuff is sort of coming back up now. saying to gargle iodine as well. using medical terminology saying creating an alternative protocol to vaccines. why are these conversations still happening on, for example, facebook? why isn t facebook shutting them down? it s complicated. facebook specifically banned any