anti-vax group. they ve banned groups saying the vaccine that s poison. don t take the vaccine. instead, anti-vaxxers don t give up. they move on to the next thing. they ve reframed their group names around these alternative therapies. the ivermectin groups have tense of thousands of followers in there and even though the ivermectin isn t working in these groups and they realize they need other stuff to make it feel like they re treating themselves, the groups are still called ivermectin groups but largely hubs for anti-wax groups. you find most of the conversation on the civilian internet. ben collins, resident expert on the civilian internet. thanks for that reporting. commend folks to reads it on nbc.com. thank you. looking at my clock. it s 3:46 eastern time. 12:46 pacific time and in some time in the next 15 to 20 minutes we expect to get the formal, official results of that
on the in these worlds, these feeds and facebook feeds. does it change their minds? it s not falsifiable. the stuff the problem with this sort of thing is people don t go back to share their failures in these spaces. this is a widespread extremist problem that you have. once they got a girlfriend or a job, they don t go back to say, i got a job. everything is fine now. it s okay. it doesn t happen that way. it s kind of similar with the people in the ivermectin groups because they are embarrassed. if it didn t work for them, if their family got sick and died from it. they don t go back and share that. they are too embarrassed to deal with it. that s the problem with these spaces. they are so closed off from actual medical reality that they never see the reality themselves. is the answer now going to be that hospitals should all go to