and when you talk to constituents, lots of people who come to your surgery still say, - i paid all my life and then i expect these services. and this idea of the stampl is something different from | normal taxation is still a powerfulj one, and i think this new levy that will appear in people s payslips |will re establish the idea that| there are some things that you are paying for directlyl through your wage packet, and i think that has a - lot of basic support in people s minds, | that they work in order to secure some security from the state. but the flip side of that for lots of people in your party, nick, is that it entrenches the sort of special status of the nhs and somehow puts it kind of beyond reproach. you can t say anything mean about it, you can t have a proper debate about it and it isjust going