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Anything trump ordered necessarily, but there s been a zeitgeist that the u.s. was not doing enough to combat russia and china in cyberspace. so the general over there is talking about something called persistent engagement. they re not really telling us exactly what that means though. this is the first indication, the new york times report on what some of that might look like. and what this is is getting into the russian power grid networks to prepare the battlefield in the event they want to push the button and explode a cyber weapon. is this a thing where russia in your view or according to your reporting in talking to intelligence officials has that capability for us? would this be a back and forth, mutually assured destruction thing? yes, and more. and this didn t get a lot of attention but cyber command shut down the internet agency the st. petersburg troll farm in 2018 and trump was briefed on it and signed off on it specifically. so it may be true in the times reporting ....