Our security correspondent Gordon Corera is here. Gordon, the finger of suspicion is firmly pointing out china at the moment . , firmly pointing out china at the moment . 2 ~ ,. , moment . Thats right. Members of the armed forces moment . Thats right. Members of the armed forces this moment . Thats right. Members of the armed forces this morning moment . Thats right. Members of the armed forces this morning will moment . Thats right. Members of the armed forces this morning will have i armed forces this morning will have received a pretty unwelcome e mail, saying that their personal data has been breached, and could have been compromised, talking about names, potentially bank details and addresses. It all relates to information from the payment contractor, ratherthan information from the payment contractor, rather than the ministry of defences own Computer Systems being breached. Its not yet clear what is being done with that data, how much has been stolen. It certainly the hackers go
unison have said the same, although, we should point out, ministers are not offering that at the moment. the thing we do have quite a lot from people in government is about next year s pay deal, but the process thatis year s pay deal, but the process that is under way now to look at what pay rise nhs staff might get in at 2023. again, that is something that unions don t want to talk about as a compensation for a lower deal this year, but it is something that ministers are dangling, i think, is a prospect of a potential olive branch. sitting here this morning, it feels very similar to the conversations we have had over the last few days. it is stuck, both sides are pretty entrenched, and at the moment, waiting for the other to blink. ., ., ~ ., ., , ., ., blink. you talk about a blame game, there, i wonder, blink. you talk about a blame game, there, iwonder, in blink. you talk about a blame game, there, iwonder, in political- blink. you talk about a blame game, there, i wonder, in p
and for zelensky, that he could stay in power and they want a neutrality. so a significant shift on both sides as far as the diplomatic path. it shows some progress. some desire to move forward is being made. neil? we can only hope. thanks. be safe. benjamin hall. the fact is that ukraine s president zelensky is open to, you know, reassessing nato and whether ukraine could or should be a part of it. it a fight that has gone on for years before this. it is maybe a potential olive branch. let s get the read from keith kellogg, the former national security adviser under mike pence. general, how significant? nato isn t that important to us. well, thanks, neil. before i go, look, i listened to the last segment. i m an old old field hand. my family s business was in oil.
that before and it turned out not to be true. so we will wait, how about that. let s talk about roger stone. he has been indicted. he will have a hearing tomorrow, expected to plead not guilty. there is a lot of talk about whether or not he might testify against the president. he said he would never do that and then hi said let s listen. i was not going to say anything that was truthful. . how much stock do you put into that. none if you heen thmean that interpreting it as holding out a potential olive branch.
charlie, they re taking a pause on this. they sold this as something that needed to happen guy says would rush into the country if we don t do it right now, we re not going to be safe. that s why the president doesn t need any oversight on this. he s protecting the american people. now he s saying they want to enjoy this victory lap from last night s speech? who knew pdits from last night s speech would suddenly change the national security evaluation of allf this? that whole justification for rushing that through is even if you gave a heads up, a 48-hour heads up, the terrorist would rush into the country. again, one of the many iron aie of this administration. one of the ideas from last night is donald trump would come out and propose some compromise on immigration, some sort of bill that would allow people in this country who did not have papers, who would be able to find legal status in this country. we didn t quite hear that last night. was that something where he re