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Any other vice president had the kind of experience i had, and that is because of the man that george h.w. bush was, and the partnership and the working relationship that we had. we think of the potato incident, right, as defining his time but he was a powerful vice president because george h.w. bush allowed him to be because he had eight years as ronald reagan s vice president. so i think that there was a sort of generosity of spirit there that we might not see now, and i would love to know what they re thinking when cheney s watching mike pence, for instance, speak, or dan quail is watching mike spence speak. speaking of generosity of spirit, the way that he reached out to former president bill clinton, not just in that letter but in their work together, their humanitarian work, and telling people, i think that he thinks of me as the father that he never had, remarkable generosity. right. we re going to take a quick break. when we come back an interview with george h.w. bush s ....