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Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20211007 01:53:00

people on a journey, it was a popularjourney with mass consent. i think starmer overstepped the mark last week in his initial proposal which collapsed. and i think he needs to learn a lesson from that. you can t bully people in a way that wasn t even being done by tony blair at his peak. there was a little bit of hubris. i think starmer and his team may beg to differ with you. we won t get into politics too much. jack, tell me, in terms of corbyn and his team did you have contact with them, were you allied with them? no, not at all. as a newspaper- i think we were born out of a lot of the same things ideologically. i but we were never purposely, in fact we were never alignedl with the labour party . then, we re not aligned with them now. we re just as likely to talk i to rory stewart and sean berry as we are to talk to i any of corbyn s shadow cabinet and indeed any i of keir starmer s cabinet. so the short answer

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20211005 00:52:00

thing i will say about keir starmer, i agree that if his party is given some bites of thejury, he will party is given some bites of the jury, he will need two. the big difference between keir starmer and tony blair is that when they brought on alistair campbell and made those big rule changes, and we have seen the image of that in the last week, they had john prescott. they got the trade unions on site. people forget that actually tony blair took people on a journey, and it was a popularjourney with mass consent. i think keir starmer overstepped the mark last week in his initial proposal which collapsed. and i think he needs to learn a lesson from that. you can t early people in a way that wasn t even being done by tony blair at his peak. so there was a little bit of hubris. i think. i think starmer majesty may beg to differ, but we won t get into that. of course! in terms of corbyn and his team, did you have contact with them? were you allied with

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20211003 14:51:00

you had brexit, two elections, the brexit after 2017. do we feed into policy? i think some of the stuff that came in 2017 and 2019 certainly fed into some of that. but i don t think it was ever really in a cogent way. one think about keir starmer and i agree, if his party gives him two bites of the cherry, he ll need them, because the big difference between starmer and blair is when they brought in alastair in the mid 90s and the mirror image within the last week they had john prescott. they got the trade unions on their side. and people forget that blair took people on a journey, it was a popularjourney with mass consent. i think starmer overstepped the mark last week in his initial proposal, which collapsed. and i think he needs to learn a lesson from that. you can t bully people in a way that

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20211002 15:53:00

two bites of the cherry, the big difference between starmer and blair is when they brought in alastair in the mid 90s and the mirror image within the last week they had john prescott. they got the trade unions on their side. and people forget that blair took people on a journey, it was a popularjourney with mass consent. i think starmer overstepped the mark last week in his initial proposal which collapsed. and i think he needs to learn a lesson from that. you can t bully people in a way that wasn t even being done by tony blair at his peak. there was a little bit of hubris. i think starmer and his team may beg to differ with you. we won t get into politics too much.. jack, tell me, in terms of corbyn and his team did you have contact with them, were you allied with them? no, not at all. as a newspaper i think we were born out of a lot of the same things ideologically.

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