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objection to the statement, your honor. were you living a wealthy lifestyle? i just don t know what you mean by wealthy. is this a hard question, mr. murdaugh? well, it s hard for me to know exactly what you want. and it depends. i was spending money that wasn t mine that i shouldn t have. i think that, you know, we lived a lifestyle i don t have an issue if you want to call it wealthy. all right. would you concede with me that not all of this money was going to pills at this point in time? all this stolen money. no, i doubt that it was. okay. and it was being used to support your wealthy lifestyle. well, i haven t looked at all these documents to know exactly what was being spent where. but here s what i do know. i know that i was making a bunch of money and i should have had i should have had more money than i did. and i know that i was spending a bunch of money on pills. and i know that i don t remember in 2011 i just can t remember those la ....
The records i don t dispute it. all right. so you have no memory whatsoever, and so for all you know it s just a coincidence that the plylers were about to turn 18 when you stole this badger money and you applied a significant amount of it to pay that off before they turned 18? you don t have any memory of that? i can tell you that that was never that was never an issue or motivation for me, again, taking arthur badger s money that i shouldn t have taken that didn t belong to me and that i was wrong for. i don t remember a loan from the plyler conservatorship as being motivation for that. so for all you can remember it s just a coincidence? why i stole arthur badger s money no, why you applied it to the ....
All? no, we did talk about it. there s e-mails to that effect. are you disputing that to this jury? mr. waters, i m not disputing. i m just telling you that russell laffitte gave me a loan from the plylers. your question was did i get him to do that? and i don t necessarily believe that to be accurate. who came up with the idea? i don t know that it was come up with an idea. there was i think russell felt like that it was a sound investment for those girls to charge me a higher interest rate when they weren t getting but so much interest somewhere else. what was that interest rate that you all thought was such a good idea for these girls? do you recall what it was? i can t remember. the reality is that you needed the money and this was a convenient source to keep your massive cash flow going as early as 2011, 2012. isn t that correct? well, this was a loan. ....
Reached the age of majority and russell would then have to be held to account for that money that he had loaned to himself and to you? first off, i don t know anything about any money that russell loaned to himself. i only know about what he loaned to me. and i don t specifically i don t believe that me stealing arthur badger s money and taking that money that did not belong to me, that i wrongly took, had anything to do i don t remember it having a relationship with having to pay back a loan or there be being some time pressure to pay back a loan that he gave me on the plyler conservatorship. you don t remember that? no. and i m not saying that that didn t happen. i m saying i don t that s not the way i remember it and i don t remember it. did you ultimately borrow a million dollars roughly from the plyler girls? ....
Plyler loan right before they turned 18. no, i m not saying it s a coincidence or not a coincidence. what i m saying is i don t remember that. okay. and so i don t remember that being the motivation. if it was, i just i didn t know i had a million-dollar loan from the plyler conservatorship. at least as i sit here today. but i would have known i had a loan from somewhere. and if i took arthur badger s money and applied it to that, i mean, again, i stole money that didn t belong to me. i misled arthur badger to take that money, and i was wrong. how many times have you practiced that answer before your testimony today? you re giving the same one over and over again. i ve never practiced that answer. okay. but you keep asking me these questions and i keep using that answer. let me show you what s been entered into evidence as state s ....