earliest discussion. clearly, the department had worked vigorously over the last year in order to try to gather as much evidence as possible to bring the broadest charge possible that they could support in court. katie, it is interesting and certainly builds on reporting from you and your colleagues all week that s been building to this part of the indictment. i want to ask you about it. he s charged with among other things, hindering and delaying the certification of the electoral college vote, tying his outside to the coup plot put in writing by john eastman and conducted by donald trump inside with conspiring allies in the house republican ranks and in the u.s. senate. i wonder the significance in your view with charming him with hindering and delaying the certification of the electoral college vote. certainly by using that language, hindering and delaying the vote, you know, the prosecutors are saying that any activity that was meant to