secretary of defense laura cooper appear, of course, behind closed doors later today. steve: which means if she says anything damaging about the president, we ll hear about it in about 15 minutes. right? perhaps. we will find out. this place leaks. brian: if adam schiff keeps walking when press yells at him we know they have nothing. that s the way it happens. thanks, griff. ainsley: thank you, griff. congressman john ratcliffe made a very good point. he said actually let me let him tell you and then we will talk about it. the mainstream media reporting that he provided evidence of a quid pro quo involving military aid is false. i questioned him directly on that and under adam schiff s rules, i can t tell you what he said. i can tell you what he didn t say. neither he nor any other witness has provided testimony that the ukrainians were aware that military aid was being withheld. you can t have a quid pro quo with no quo. brian: right. steve: good point. brian: it was delayed but