without a doubt. yeah. you certainly look at them different. when you re young you think you re going to ride ten more of these things. at least in your mind you can feel that way. at this stage of my career, this could be the last one. i don t plan on it, i m not by far am i saying i m retiring. reporter: yeah, and para popr pick, epicenter, he s won four of six races. trained by hall of famer steve as mussen. s and he s had 23 horses in the kentucky derby and has never won. that s the most without winning in history, guys. asmussen told us he s hoping this is finally going to be his year. post time for tonight s big race, 6:57 eastern. alex, christie, i think i m going to go with center because i would love to see asmussen finally get that win. you make a pick cigarette. a pickett? the. no, i haven t. i ll trust you. have fun. thank you so much. thank you for watching. we hope you make good memories today.