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Fired them. so certainly he was sowing chaos with his actions. what he actually believed we don t know, but what he told phil and me when we sat down with him was that what he wanted on january 6th was what his supporters wanted. right. harry, here s my question for you, there s in this in the story, this politico story about the memo here, i m going to read this to you real quick. it deals with the electoral count act. it says the trafficking by trump allies in these theories proved they planned to repeatedly violate the count act and keep trump in power. house counsel doug letter wrote in last week s files. competing slates of electors to congress creating the very controversy those allies said was necessary for pence to assert control. so i guess my questions are, number one, is it not is it safe to say that they violated the electoral count act and that ....
I think that s a risk calculus the white house is considering. you know, the washington post just talked about ukraine marking children s day and the u.n. saying that 5 million in humanitarian aid, so the humanitarian question really is front and center. i m glad you raised it, jim. it s super important. phil crowther in ukraine stay safe. carol is sticking around, when we return, we will get our first look at the trump world memo that a judge ruled was likely part of a criminal attempt by the former president and attorney john eastman to try to overturn the 2020 election. plus there, is a glimmer of optimism that this time could be different, the lawmakers actually will do something in the wake of the uvalde mass shooting. we ll have the latest on what we know as a bipartisan group of senators meets to find a way forward on guns. can democrats be successful in this year s midterms by maing ....
Phil, i want to start with you. apparently you are in lviv, and apparently you ve just had a missile strike within the last hour. that is nowhere near the donbas on the other side of the country. but tell us what s going on in lviv. reporter: a bit of a reminder for us and for the whole country of ukraine really that russia can hit targets all around this country, essentially whenever it wants. we got the news from the governor of this lviv region that there have been explosions heard first of all around 70 kilometers away from here, and then the confirmation there had indeed been a missile strike. now all the information we re getting there that this was on transport infrastructure, we don t have any more than that. i can tell you over the last hour, we ve been looking at a big plume of white smoke on the horizon from here that would indicate that that might be the area where there could have been a russian missile strike. usually we get a few more details in the next few hours, but ....
We kind of assume, we see trump telling pence you have the power to do this. you clearly have the ability. there s a legal theory here that you should adhere to. the question i ve had all along is a question about whether trump believed any of that or whether what he was really just about was fomenting chaos. he understood some of these legal theories were bogus, but by trying to get people to do things that would be disruptive, he thought that he could as he so often has in his political career just benefit, somehow win because everybody else was so confused, because things were so chaotic, that that would somehow allow him to cling to power, even if all these theories that he was propoing were bs. it s true that phil and i spent a lot of time inside the minds of team trump and inside the mind of the former president, and i can t tell you that i know whether or not he believed that his best chance was chaos. i can only tell you what his actions were and what he told ....