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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:19:00

he often has it on in the background. and then, looks up and looks at things. but the tv is often on and he was well aware of the coverage yesterday. so, elie, from a legal perspective, what happens now? what s the goal among the new york prosecutors? still to get weisselberg to flip? i think so, absolutely, john. look. there is one of two things that yesterday s indictment is. sce scenario one is this could be prosecutors shooting their shot. putting their best foot forward and hoping they get something out of this. if that s the case, it s really not much. i think what the scenario is, having been a prosecutor for a long time, is they are trying to strategically target, leverage, and pressure allen weisselberg to flip. whenever you are trying to break into a closed society, a closed organization like the trump organization, this is what p prosecutors do. you look at the org chart. you say who might be vulnerable? who actually might flip? and who can deliver the goods? and if you

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:23:00

him is they have got a good case against you. look. any person who s been charged with an indictment has three options. number one, you can cooperate. if you do that, given the nature of the charges here, you have a very good chance to get probation. to not go to jail. option two is you can just plead guilty without cooperating. without hymn helping them out. if you do that, mr. weisselberg, you have a chance to get, maybe, a year or two. if you look at the new york guidelines, two or three years. but maybe, i, your defense lawyer, can argue to the judge for probation. we d have to we d be rolling the dice. option three is you can go to trial. i think anyone who advises a client has to tell them that most defendants, varies a bit by jurisdiction, get convicted at trial. and if you get convicted at trial, you very likely will get sentenced to several years in prison. so, those are the three options that allen weisselberg s sitting with. and one other thing that s important. building o

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:21:00

unnamed person at the trump org, take my name off that document. there was a notation that said, per allen weisselberg. weisselberg said, get my name off there. that is really incriminating evidence. so, if allen weisselberg s sitting there with his attorneys today, i think his attorneys have to tell him look, they have a strong case against you. you are about to turn 74 years old, allen. and if you get convicted here, you could go away for several years. so, you need to let that sit for a bit as a prosecutor but that indictment sent a message yesterday. maggie, i think people forget sometimes trump organization is a family business. relatively small, in some ways, family business. a family business now under indictment. you have a byline on the story which i think is really interesting in the times, which talks about how this indictment could affect the family business, almost immediately. what will the impact be? so, john, the biggest question, right now, is what this means in

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:16:00

ask your doctor about fasenra. if you can t afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. irony is dead, tonight. donald trump jr. killed it. reacting to the tax-related criminal charges against the family company and the chief-financial officer, allen weisselberg, young master trump told fox news, quote, this is what vladimir putin does. as for how his father has been

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:18:00

throwing staplers but he s not happy. it s not something that he is talking about constantly, as, you know, fury. but this is not where they want to be. this is a totally new world for him, john, and i think what you have seen with the former president and his advisers and members of his family and his allies is they have conflated legal problems, with public-relations problems for so long that i think some of them are losing sight of the fact that this is actually an indictment. now, it s not an indictment of donald trump, personally. but it is an indictment of his cfo and of his company. and these are even if they want to dispute the case and whether it s fair and whether it would be brought against somebody else. the reality is that allen weisselberg, the cfo, is facing potential-jail time. and that can can change things. it may not. he has indicated he is not going to cooperate with prosecutors but we will see where this goes. the indictment, maggie, part of the president s r

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