see those votes switching, i have family in pennsylvania. they kicked donald trump s hand-picked candidates last year to the curb by pretty big numbers. barbara, how do you explain how people outside washington and new york and in places the first primary s going to be held or the first caucuses are going to be held, how do you explain their it looks as though dogmatic support of donald trump come whatever may come. the problem is the other candidates certainly, desantis who i really think that s over, put a fork in him, they ve been skirting around it, so that s why i think it s helpful for these candidates who are speaking truth.
kelly. as we know, it s a roller coaster, people are up, people are down but the president had the faith to let john kelly make this decision as regards his son-in-law suggests that john kelly is in a position of strength. that doesn t mean he will be into the future in the short term or in the long term and what we ll need to watch in terms of the john kelly/jared kushner relationship is does jared start to feel confined by not having full security clearance? does he complain to the president? does he complain to ivanka trump and do they start to resent john kelly or try to alienate him? the difference between top secret sci security level which i have by the way, believe it or not. but that s one level. top secret is one thing, secret is another thing and there s a vast difference. it looks like from outside the washington beltway this that this is a game for people outside washington, it s not. let me give you basic areas.
out of my my grandmother, with an irish accent, the protestant in the family, presbyterian, like mrs. doubtfire. grew up with that. she came up. used to stare men the eye. it was africa wasn t it. eerie old world thing. the great thing about the peace corps like being an immigrant. the immigrant experience. go to a different culture. have to live and fit in two years. you get a sense of what it is look to come here from europe. interesting. from anywhere. when you got to washington, your first job is a cop? fits us doesn t it? don t know whether a classic. look step with this. right into this thing. i want to see this young guy. kennedy guy. top aide. times have changed. wonderful guy. bobby kennedy guy. ted kennedy guy. and maybe do, tricky staff work. figuring out tax law. helping out with an important person. he said i got a job for you. capital cop. what you do work in the office in the daytime. work as a cop at night.
i want to play one more clip from the interview where you ask him about wall street. and you talk the attitude that financial sector has had during this entire debate. let s take a listen. wall street has been pretty calm about this. the reaction has been washington fighting. washington posturing. yada-yada-yada, is that the right we to look at it? no. this time is different. democracy is messy. when you have a situation, a faction is willing, potentially to default on u.s. government obligations, then then we are in trouble. john, what is your sense here? is this, the president is, legitimately concerned we are going to default on our debts or he is trying to gin up wall street support. so that wall street convinces the gop that this is something they need to tackle and deal with. both. i think he is concerned that as
the difficult as it s been for speaker boehner and the republicans to get out of the cul-de-sac that they have marked into the spending bills, that it s going to be very difficult to do it on the debt limit. i think that most people in washington like people on wall street think end of the day that rationality is going to prevail. and this unbelievable self-inflicted wound will not be inflicted by the congress. but i think he is a larmd enough about it. he is trying to mobilize allies. and people who hatch got the checkbooks to make an impression on members of congress. doesn t make an impression on rank-and-file members. they re in, two to one, republican districts. you know, barack obama, got a third of the vote in the districts. they may not respond to wall street. leadership responds to business donors and the president is trying to get them to cut off the renegade members who won the go along. in short, money talks. the does talk.