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College votes from arizona, georgia, pennsylvania, they had a pathway to call victory and at that point i think that donald trump would have followed michael flynn, his disgraced national former national security adviser who was saying invoke the insurrection act and declare something like martial law. that was basically the plan. and luckily vice president pence didn t go along with it and he distributed a memo right before we sat down at 1 p.m. on january 6th in which he explained why he could not do what donald trump was asking him to do. you know, you talked about the state ddelegations. i encourage folks to read your book because a lot of people i remember at the time were wondering, what are democrats doing? they re not doing anything. they re always caught flatfooted. if you read unthinkable you learn from your book or we learn from your book that you guys thought of everything to the point where you talk about the ....
Out loud. i think mike has been very badly hurt by what took place with respect to january 6th. i think he s been i think he s been mortally wounded, frankly, because i see the reaction he s getting from people. david, why do sources familiar with david chalian s thinking think this is so notable? listen, we know there is no love lost here this year since january 6th between donald trump and mike pence. and trump has been out there sort of questioning, still smarting over the fact that pence didn t go through with his attempted coup plan that trump had depfvised for him that penc followed the constitutional order probably in terms of counting the electoral votes. what i find amazing about this, now donald trump is stepping up this game. he s trying to ensure mike pence doesn t have a political future in the republican party. he is, by saying he s mortally wounded, and by the way, trump s ....