carlo rovelli, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much, stephen. i want to begin with a thought about your youth, because when you were young, you were a revolutionary. you wanted dramatic change, to destroy the status quo. i just wonder if you ve brought that spirit into your physics, into your study of the universe. yes. it was not.notjust me. it was a big chunk of my generation that had this dream of changing the world, right? and then making a world better without wars, without borders. we got disappointed. we sort of thought, well, the rest of the planet, the rest of the people doesn t really want to change the world so much. and i think it s a moment of disappointment that i found something else which was revolutionary, which was modern physics. so i shifted from political revolution to scientific revolution. and what sense can you describe physics as potentially revolutionary? because we have a worldview in which we think we know everything. right? this is up, this is
a thought about your youth, because when you were young, you were a revolutionary. you wanted dramatic change, to destroy the status quo. i just wonder if you ve brought that spirit into your physics, into your study of the universe. yes. it was not.notjust me. it was a big chunk of my generation that had this dream of changing the world, right? and then making a world better without wars, without borders. we got disappointed. we sort of thought, well, the rest of the planet, the rest of the people doesn t really want to change the world so much. and i think it s a moment of disappointment that i found something else which was revolutionary, which was modern physics. so i shifted from political revolution to scientific revolution. and what sense can you describe physics as potentially revolutionary? because we have a worldview in which we think we know everything. right? this is up, this is down, the earth is flat, nothing is moving. this is solid, continuous. and then we lea
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