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I guess we ve had this conversation before but i want to ask you again, larry. in the various forms of university health care that the world and the developed world use, only a few use a single payer system. what s the advantage of it? that s right. most countries in fact every other industrialized country that university coverage means everyone has health coverage. few use a pew single payer system like senator sanders is proposing. look if designing something from scratch, and wanted to guarantee coverage to everyone using something like medicare to cover everyone makes a lot of sense. but we re not starting from scratch. people with employer based insurance, medicaid, medicare, buying their own through obamacare, and sort of wiping all of that out and starting over is really complicated and disruptive. look, we spend much more than any other country. mainly because the government is much less involved in regulating health care here than elsewhere. but if we really were to ....
One is what should the market look like ideally? what is the best way, the most efficient way to get everybody in america covered with health insurance? and that s really the goal. universal health care for all, but i think short term we have to have a stable market or not just the people signing up with obamacare subsidies but folks who are mom and pop shops, farm families, others who may not qualify for subsidies are actually meeting some place to buy health insurance short term. so you re not just a lot of people know you as the former secretary of health and human services but you were a governor. that s right. and you know that you talked about universal health care, 34 out of 35 rich countries have it. i think about 58 countries in the world have universal health care. a single payer system or medicare for all is just one form of universal health care. that s right. for a lot who like the private insurance market, switzerland has a universal but ....
It segments that there s nothing obvious that s new in the bill to try to slow the groo growth because of the third party payer system we have through provider services and medicare and the like. so i m not sure that you ryan, sorry to interrupt you. given the frustration that these lawmakers have heard from americans as they went home to their districts and home states right now, why wouldn t a smarter effort going forward be to do something bipartisan in this limited moment right here? the president, the great disrupter, as opposed to, as this administration has done, undermining obamacare as it existed right now by basically not reinforcing the to support ....
I think we will get a bill out of the senate in july. i appreciate this conversation. now when i m speaking to democrats, i m going to ask them if they can consider other forms of universal health coverage for a lot of people that may not be single payer system if that doesn t appeal to you. i appreciate the conversation. or any fix for this problem. so far, they ve not offered anything? i don t know that to be true. but i will take you at your word that that s what democrats you spoken to said so. thank you. he s a republican from alabama. all right, coming up next, south korea s president is with president trump, he goes after north korea. together we are facing the threat of the reckless and brutal regime in north korea. the north korean dictatorship has no regard for the safety and security of its people or its neighbors and has no respect for human life. with president moon jae-in ....
That somehow will buy his vote into this. that s an important issue, but to buy a vote into a poisonous bill overall, it s meaningless. all of this an effort to get a majority of votes in the senate without working in a bipartisan way. in the spirit of bipartisanship, there are a lot of members in your conference who want to go the other direction, they want a single payer system. with that in mind, would they settle for just a bipartisan fix to obamacare? i think many of us, including myself, who think we are moving toward medicare or all or single payer system at some point. we already said you are not going to get a bipartisan fix in the end, right? we can amend the affordable care act. their goal is to undermine and do away with the affordable care ....