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massive processes to get women into higher appointed position and if we don t pay attention and keep counting the metrics, those metrics drop. i think the larger conversation is a conversation that we need to have and we re not having. yeah. it s a great point. patrick, i want you to it has become this point of ridicule. it s a punch line on the president s stump speech. why the big deal? the process as described by lauren should not be ridiculed. it s to the governor s credit that the lieutenant governor was assigned to take this very seriously and work to massgap to make sure that women are represented in government. that response was ridiculed because it was responding to the pay equity law. the vice presidential nominee voted against it. if you go back to that tape for a second, think about it for a second. mitt romney becomes governor, 2002. he s not a 20-year-old man. he s been in private business in

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