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host: they ve introduced us and told them who we are so we can just start talking about your book. the best way to do that is to talk about its author because it s a book that makes an argument that depends on the life of the author so we need to know about who you are. but let s talk about that. anyways, he might want to talk about how you think about your own life. let s start with, you grew up in new jersey and you grew up and how did your parents get to new jersey and who were they? guest: i m the son of a black man, segregated south and my father is 82 years old, born in 1937 in longview, texas and raised in galveston. this was under jim crow and segregation. he moved to the west as soon as he could and was running war on poverty programs under lyndon johnson great society initiative and met my mother who is nine years his junior and san diego where he headed up a poverty program and she was fresh out of college grade she is the daughter of evangelical christians but
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