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okay. let s talk about the pills. so you were able to function as a lawyer despite using pills. yes, sir. and you were able of course during this period of time to engage in these relatively complicated thefts that increase over the years that we have talked about, despite the pill usage, is that correct? i was. hmm? i was. all right. and you were able to convince the staff that nothing was amiss during this time that nothing was amiss during this time? while you were on the pill usage? my staff again, so we are on the same page, i acknowledge that i certainly allowed them to be misled. i certainly allowed them to do things that i shouldn t have done on my behalf knowing that they trusted me. how many pills were you using a day? it depends upon a number of items and most importantly, how strong the pill was. okay. let s talk about maybe start in january of 2021 and move forward. can you describe to the jury what the daily pill intake was like? ....
From paul to you. i do. and you said that maggie found pills in your bag. right. tell me about what happened after that. you asked me about paul finding them, but it is maggie that found them. fair enough. so it is maggie that found them, but it is paul who reached out to you, correct? yes, sir. on that occasion, yes, sir. all right. what was the discussion after that? i can t remember exactly what it was, but it was about that i had had eye surgery, i don t know what day it was, but days before that, the day that maggie found them, and she drove me to the doctor for me to have my cataract removed, whatever, they call that surgery, and i can t remember, but i had the cataract in and for outpatient and you go ....
Entered into evidence that was a text are from paul to you. i did. in which he said that maggie found pills your nor bag. right. you asked me about paul finding them, but it was maggie that found them. fair enough so it was maggie who found them? yes, sir. but paul was the one who reached out to you, correct? on that occasion, yes, sir. and what was the discussion after that? i can t remember exactly what it was, but it was about that i had eye surgery the i don t know what day it was. days before that. the day maggie found them, maggie drove me to the doctor to have my cataract removed, whatever they call that surgery, i can t remember, but i had a cataract taken out, outpatient. you go in for a couple of hours, ....
did that have anything to do with the pills? well, yeah, it had something to do with it. paul was always that way. but that what led him to be called a little detective certainly there were times when paul found pills. including just a month before the murders, is that correct? no, sir. all right. do you recall 6-5-23 which was a text from paul to you which he said that maggie found pills in your bag? right. tell me about what happened after that? you asked me about paul finding them. it was maggie that found them. it was maggie that found them? yes, sir. but paul is the one who reached out to you, correct? on that occasion, yes, sir. ....
0 do you remember looking tony satterfield in the eye and lying to him? i remember lying to tony satterfield and i remember looking him in the eye on many occasions. and lying to him? yeah. lying to his family? i lied to his family. i don t know if i did it in person but i know i had phone conversations with them where i lied to them. okay. let s talk a little bit about the pills if we can. okay. and you ve already testified, as have other people, that you were still able to function as a lawyer over the years despite the pills that you were using. is that correct? yes, sir. and you were able of course during this period of time to engage in these relatively complicated thefts that increased over the years that we ve just talked about despite the pill usage, is that correct? i was. i was. all right. and you were also able to, during this time period, convince your staff that nothing was amiss with all of these exhibits, despite your pill usage. most of those d ....