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Just heard former cia official phil mudd talk about? i think there has to be. when you look at the logistics, the communication that went into this, the planning, there has to be other people that helped them out there. i think one of the key parts too is in these responses by law enforcement, the law enforcement officers, the first ones on the scene are basic patrolmen. they have a handgun, they might have a shotgun, a standard vest. and they re going up against somebody with an ar-15 or ak-47, that puts them at a huge disadvantage. we have to start looking at how our first responders are equipped when they go into situations like this. and, chief, i m not sure if you ve seen the footage but we just aired it and there is a scene where one of the officers inside the inland regional center is he s evacuating employees out of the building and he says, i ll take a bullet before any of you. how important ....
Williams. but we ve been hearing that one person is dead. and one or two have been captured. that s what we know. from this location, we re not hearing any of that information, chris. what we are seeing, though, is again, just to reiterate, what looks like a very aggressive manhunt continuing from my perspective, despite what you re seeing, from the sky on television at the position with the black suv. do you see the patrolmen going door to door with police dogs? yeah. basically, this is a neighborhood with, you know, chain-link fences, not quite thicket fences but metal fences. it s an ordinary neighborhood. we ve got sheriff s deputies, very heavily armed tactical sheriffs officials, and other law enforcement officials, just as you said quite literally going door to door here, looking for someone, chris. hold on there. i want to bring in mark glazer who is sitting here with me. you have a concern here. what all these mass shootings have in common is the shootings ....
Large. gene o donnell is a former new york city police officer. thank you very much, mr. o donnell. tell us what these pictures are telling us. again, the great irony here that we re seeing pictures ahead of the reporting. we re going get a press conference in a half hour now. we have been looking at what we thought was a standoff with a number of s.w.a.t. teams all in vehicles, all surrounding an suv, a dark suv. all the windows have been shot out. now we re watching people scrambling around, patrolmen with police dogs looking for someone. what can you tell here? well, i think the real concern, two big concerns. one is the information coming out to the people in the field. and that s problematic in realtime there is moving pieces here. and i d be concerned that the cops are not able to catch up with what is happening. and also, real concerned that ordinary cops with ordinary weapons are going to encounter heavily armed people. and that s a great concern in these situations. and we r ....
The two other suspects who left the getaway car are both arrested in the days that follow. steven willard jr. is sentenced to 70 months in prison for the robbery while robert mccallie gets 12 years for the dairyland bank robbery and for robbing another bank in the area. it s not until afterwards the shakes start coming and you really realize the gravity of the situation you re in. since the incident, warden peery s dash cam video has been used as a training tool for other patrolmen. now when i sit back and i m reviewing it in a training situation and with other folks, i have mixed feelings. i understand that those decisions had to be made and it had to end up the way it did because of frenzer s actions. but it still doesn t take away the fact that there is sorrow there. you had to take another person s life. [ gunshots ] coming up, a police precinct ambushed. ....
Is an issue. perhaps the biggest one is after columbine, i think we all saw that schools really terrorize us and that s what this is about. this is a form of using terrorism and we re terrified about children being vulnerable a and parents, especially. more and more of these people are realizing to conduct it at a school, they will get a lot more coverage from us. good points. sergeant deandrea, you ve been a first responder in three school shootings. what has changed, if anything? probably the most important lesson that we ve learned over the years is we need to get inside the school as quickly as we can to be able to effectively save lives and the less sons from columbine where it was a perimeter based operation waiting for tactical teams and it s evolved from that to patrolmen going directly in and addressing the threat. ....