all this as britain and spain are officially in double dip recessions of their own so that means the early recession they were in, they are back in them, a big fear here and this young man has been talking about that, worrying about that and predicting that, tag about my friend, todd. guest: you look at 2008, the u.s. government was borrowing 20 cents on the dollar for debt. so, for example, to cover our obligations we borrowed 20 cent more to issue treasury debt and now it is 40 cents and it is rising so that kind of debt and what we have already seen in europe, with the double dip recessionary pat help, that is because of debt. it is a poison. so in the u.s. we have to be concerned and you mention the g.d.p. rate slowing down, things are not looking good. neil: i wonder, you have gone through a lot of the recoveries where they get bumpy. but, by and large the data is more if data than bad or more