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oust joe biden. and then you have the harris people they see it as attempt by newsom to position himself ahead of kamala harris for 2028. gavin newsom sat down with sean back in june and that s when the question was asked would you ever consider debating ron desantis? and in that interview gavin newsom talked about how he supports is he not running for president. wait he is probably waiting in the wings. steve: just in case, plan b. ainsley: the problem is his record in california. evidence might look the part record in california is going to be hard for him. but then sean interviewed ron desantis and he said you heard that he wants to debate you, he will give you two hours, three hours. and he said will you take the challenge? and he said yes. if you didn t see those two interviews, here they are. you would do a two hour

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