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well, you have this moment where time kind of slows down. you have to make a split second decision. honestly, i can remember having this, gunshot, don t overreact. then jumping up. your adrenaline kicks in. and it s very emotional. i m also jet lagged. i m an american here in paris from san francisco. i was quite tired. my adrenaline kicked in. ran into the restaurant. i was very scared. crying and pretty upset. have you been able to reach your family in san francisco and they re alerted you re okay of course? yes, i ve been in touch with my family since the very beginning. we re glad. we re glad you re okay. we appreciate you spending time to speak with us today. we wish you safe travels as you head back home soon. margot, thank you very much. coming up next right here live on msnbc, more on the nature of these attacks in paris and if they can be a sign of things
that s going to be the conversation for this administration. president obama s desire of course when coming to office was the vow he would end the wars in iraq and afghanistan. now he acknowledges he ll have to leave more troops in behind in that region. they may have to grow the number of troops beyond the 60 special ops he announced would be heading to syria to deal with this. we may see within the next 24 hours some focus on article 5 of nato and looking whether or not they ll be a collective security commitment that we make that almost compels us to move forward with a more muscular approach than we ve given thups far. steve clemens, thank you very much. we re going to be back to you in just a few minutes. we want to bring in from paris margot. was having dinner at the restaurant when gunfire rang out. so many people in that celebrated believed city. can you give us a sense of your experience? when did you know this was a