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to worry about driving around in the city of madison. we have to create a different paradigm so that isn t the norm or the expectation. have you had an opportunity to meet with mr. robinson s family? yes i have met with andrea as a post-script to the actual killing of tony, but not as a post-script to this verdict, no, ma am. let me ask a final question. you acknowledge baltimore and the long-term questions and issues that have been raised by it. how has your department been having conversations about what s happening in baltimore? well i think that we looked at it from a logistics standpoint as any incident command should but more over, i think we looked to where we could look to our community leaders, whether titled or de facto as such and say how could we help our whole community as one and having them project themselves into the field? we had over 150 parade marshals or mentoring preaching a sense