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of election fraud were just lies. what they were proposing, that was nuts. the mayor was definitely intoxicated. law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that rudy giuliani was making publicly. evidence today that former president trump knew he lost, and kept telling lies about it. the president accepted that. he said, okay, fine, but what about the others? i told them that it was it was crazy stuff, and i was doing great, doing service for the country. and why the investigation now involves fundraising off claims that were notably false? not only was there the big lie, it was the big group off. tonight, committee member zoe lofgren, republican election lawyer and witness from today s hearing, ben ginsberg. plus, nicole wallace, joy reid, chris hayes lawrence o donnell, ari melber, in our special primetime coverage of the second day of the january 6th hearings. good evening and thank you for being with us tonight. i m rachel maddow here at

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