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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:45:00

Former wife. and it was because of this insurance policy. reporter: pam phillips, gary s ex was someone that investigators wanted to talk with, especially afterward came from aspen that pam had been connected in some way to a fugitive on the run from fraud charges named ron young. nine days after the murder, investigators got their chance. pam phillips voluntarily came in for questioning. i didn t give pamela out of what i knew. i let her talk and let her give me what she wanted to give me. reporter: detective keith st. john spoke with him three times, twice in person. for the record, tell me your full name. pamela and phillips. he asked him to talk about her relationship with gary, starting with how they met. was he already divorced? no. he was happily married. did she know about those meetings?

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:36:00

An arrest warrant, ron young disappeared. he knew you were on his trial, and he skipped town? yes. young fled in a rented mini van that later turned up in southern california. young himself was nowhere to be found. but what was found in the mini van was very curious. a note in the car that was kind of like a laundry list. buy toothpaste, down the list further was sawed off shotgun. reporter: ron young was not known as a violent criminal. but when police found a shotgun and a taser in the van, it may detective crowley that a man wanted for white collar crimes may possibly more be more dangerous than he thought. in ron young s mini van, investigators found something else peculiar. paperwork related to the divorce of pamela phillips and gary triano. at the time the name gary triano meant what do you? nothing. but pam phillips, that was a name that crowley had heard before. he knew her as another aspen resident who claimed she had been ripped off by ron young. pam said ron

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:17:00

To be there? i think because she thought that she had gotten away with this and i think that we wanted her to see that we knew that she hadn t. there she was on full display, a former socialite chauffeured limos was now a county sheriff s car. gary s youngest child elliott was just seven months old when her father was killed. by now, she was beginning to understand more about how her father died, and who might have done it, and why. when you heard that pam was accused of having your father murdered for 2 million dollar insurance policy, what did you think? i don t know what it is like to live the kind of life that she was living, but i know what it is like to grow up without having my dad around, my biological dad. pamela ann phillips, this is your rain, those are your charges.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:45:30

Real estate developer Gary Triano lived large and when he was murdered there were whispers of a mob connection, an angry investor, or a mad ex, but the mystery.

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