and work with us to advance other u.s. objectives. i disagree with this sort of bungling foreign policy. but through these hearings many of my colleagues have unwittingly undermined the ukrainian government by suggesting that it is subservient to the united states and without the united states they wouldn t be able to function. the ukrainians, as you stated mr. holmes, is in a hot war with russia and they are holding their own. we could benefit from the experience of the ukrainians, not the other way around. while i fought the thought the intelligence committee would be engaged in the oversight national security communities. unfortunately we are not. we are here talking about one of the most serious constitutional duties we have as members of congress, the impeachment and removal of a president of the united states. over the past weeks we have learned a few things. the officials on the july 25th call have many different opinions on whether the call was concerning or not and just becaus