colleagues who sent the message, don t kick it over here, it s only going to create more problems. mike, from this point, who becomes more vulnerable, ryan or trump? well, you know, at this point i think it s paul ryan. he s up for re-election in a couple year, not that that will be an issue. he s have from a very conservative district. but he s in the shame shoes john baber was. a year and a half ago john boehner was pushed out by the same group of freedom caucus members. ryan swooped in, seen as the only guy with conservative chops to satisfy them. you re talking about hi speakership as opposed to being re-elected for his district. how vulnerable is he to lose his speakership? well, you know, we don t know. the apps is we don t know. there s clearly tension between him and the freedom caucus and this is the same group that pushed out boehner. so for all the talk of ryan is the guy that can unite the party, he s in the exact same
about because republicans like myself who agree with him on this. stay to the facts. he would win on the i was going to say, the republicans on the hill who are not in the reality based community that you are but you re only going to get them farther into their corner by whacking them with it. we ll see how that goes. do you think that this really incredible period that we re in between both ends of pennsylvania avenue will continue or is this the last positive thing that we will see from speaker ryan because the far right factions that drove out boehner will set their sights on paul ryan? i think there is reason to be hopeful. the reason that i get i would say there is probably reason to be somewhat hopeful that there will be some sort of functional relationship is that paul ryan was the speaker who came in and basically set some terms for own
ryan going forward will be with those members having succeeded in pushing out boehner and to some extent kevin mccarthy, the original expected speaker, will they now turn a page with ryan and be more open to working with him or will they remain as resistant point by point on the things that come forward. it s hard to imagine a 180-turn, but maybe there can be a period where ryan can get some things done, especially with these big issues of government shutdown off the table and debt ceiling crisis off the table, because the house passed this two-year budget plan. still working its way through the senate, but the house got through it and did it with democratic votes, not republicans, to get it across the line. chris cillizza of the washington post is also part of our coverage. i m told he s no longer part of our coverage. kelly, back to you for a second. what is going to change about the job of speaker? the travel schedule alone, and
mind as he s home with his family and with all of this pressure? for one thing, thinking about his family. is this something with three young kids and a wife back in wisconsin he wants to take on? he likes to go home on the weekends to wisconsin to spend time whip those kids, that element, and trying to think whether or not this is a job he really wants. paul ryan is a numbers guy, ideas guy, the kind of congressman he s been his career and speakership, administrative stuff. meeting with various delegations and the architect of the capitol, scheduling votes, things paul ryan isn t interested in. can he unite the various members of the house republican conference, they ve got to be all swimming around in his head as he tries to make a decision. certainly the freedom caucus on his mind. those 40 or 50 very conservative member whose pushed out boehner basically and kevin mccarthy.
activist in the largest district in his county. we hope to have jeff shapiro, the dean of the political delegation in virginia. he s making his way to studio. but let me start with you. you had folks staking out boehner s restaurant. it was like an episode out of house of cards. the deck has been scrambled and there s one election everyone is focused on. it s like the capital never closed last night and it continues this morning and all through this week as we see what happens in this leadership race. we ll see what cantor does in terms of whether or not he decides to does he stay now, open it up now? exactly. you would assume if he decides to go now, does that mean leadership has more power in deciding who it, is the current set of leadership or if he waits until after the election, does it make it wide