serious conversation now, right? so it s not frivolous leadership speculation, which you re right, politicians in all parties love and adore. they love talking about themselves sorry, but it s true. they love talking about their own ambitions, and often very noble ambitions, to try to do what they think the right thing is for the country. but the fiasco of the last few weeks has meant that this is a conversation that is now happening very overtly in the conservative party. overtly covertly. yeah, very overtly covertly, but also i think seriously. and i think it s far fetched to consider that right now there s going to be an immediate challenge. although one former minister said to me today he d had two approaches in the last few days to put in a letter , and that s tory code for putting a letter to the boss of the kind of shop steward for tory mps, greg brady of the 22. and that s proof of organisationing. ..to trigger a leadership contest. but i m just saying, to underline it, i th
in the conservative party. overtly covertly. yeah, very overtly covertly, but also i think seriously. and i think it s far fetched to consider that right now there s going to be an immediate challenge. although one former minister said to me today he d had two approaches in the last few days to put in a letter , and that s tory code for putting a letter to the boss of the kind of shop steward for tory mps, greg brady of the 22. and that s proof of organisationing. ..to trigger a leadership contest. but i m just saying, to underline it, i think to talk about something immediate is a bit far fetched. but there are absolutely conversations about how they might. ..what life after boris johnson might look like. and there were all sorts of sort of great metaphors whizzing around. i mean, one very experienced mp said to me, look, stage one of the tory leadership transition where everybody agrees that the prime minister might be running out of road, is complete.