a surge the last two years in 19 and 20 there was a surge, as well. this one might be worse. no, well, it could be. here is the deal. we re sending back people first of all, the idea that joe biden said come because i heard the other day that they re coming because i m a nice guy and i won t do you re saying this. yeah, here is the deal. they re not. do you have to say quite clearly don t come? yes, i can say quite clearly don t come and what we re in the process of getting set up, don t leave your town or city or community. more now from cnn phil mattingly who joins us. phil, does it seem like president biden is or the white house, do they grasp the severity of the situation on the boarder? i think white house officials do and you heard the president try to compare it to 2019 or 2020 and i think the reality is from his own homeland security secretary today they are seeing a surge they haven t seen in nearly two decades. it a significant problem. i think