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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:42:00

Bylined on that story that broke. they know the truth. putting people under the scrutiny of an affidavit is really important. there s somebody that knows the truth in all of this. they ve been active on this, i m the reporter one of the reporters they broke the lead initially. they reported on this conclusion of the investigation, which you might take it at some high-level trolling from politico, i m never revealing our sources. but they must know, they must have at least some change of causation that can eventually get to the person who is the source at the court. we do know it s at the court, is that it wasn t an external hack. no need to look a broad. it was incoming thank you. melissa murray, professor at school of law in new york, hosted podcast, strict scrutiny. i hope the next time you come here, we will actually know who the leakers was. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:37:00

Talked, it is juicy. what happened? also, how is this the conclusion of the investigation? it began with a bang, and it s ended with a whimper. let s start. the whole idea of having the marshal service investigate this leak is by itself eyebrow raising. the marshal service is part of the court, but it s really just there to provide physical security to the justice system, not like the fbi with a broad investigative method. it s clear that the highest court in the land with all of these resources from the government at their disposal, chose to use an arm of the court that is not equipped to do this. you see it in the report how they had to consult external, sources, help with some of the forensic issues, it s not clear that this was the best use of the marshals time, and may mean that the investigation might be best done with some other body. it s almost like they didn t ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:38:00

Want to get to the bottom of it. who knows? it is an interesting way to wind all of this, especially at a time where the court is experiencing its lowest approval ratings among the public in the years, and so this is a court where much of the public believes that its work is animated by politics, not law. here is an opportunity to really investigate and get to the bottom of this. and to be transparent with the american public. instead, we ve got more opacity here. we don t know if the justice were interviewed, we don t know anything. we do know that some of those interviews cited affidavits, saying that they haven t disclosed the information, haven t been a source of the leak. then they later had to come bag and annotate their affidavits, because they realized they had actually discussed this decision in the vote count with their spouses in partners. you wonder, was that widespread, where other people discussing this with their spouses and partners? why don t we know that? ever got ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:40:00

Whether you believe that justice alito leaked the hobby lobby opinion in 2014, whether you think he s the source of the leak, we don t know. the question lurks out there, because of the reporting by the new york times, joe back earlier this last year had this whole exposé on the campaign of influence of the supreme court with justice alito, and some of the other juror conservative justices at its center. it is associated with the leak, and you don t talk to the justice system, and you re not forthcoming with the public about whether or not you talk to the justices. just a very silly, unforced error. another was an unforced. it does bring to mind that the point of this, when would think is the john roberts attempt to restore the integrity of the court. i think it s done the opposite way, adding another layer of skepticism to whether or not about the intentions of the court, and how partisan it has become. not specifying whether or not ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:53:00

Silent and another, it s very difficult. there s also the argument that he s waived his fifth amendment right against self in the incrimination with regard to what he said to the new york times, and what he might have to repeat in the court. we ll see if he can stand by then when he s under oath. where do you think his greatest legal peril is? we know that eastman has been dragged into the fulton county investigation. with the january 6th committee of course itself referred eastman by name to the doj on a range of criminal charges. how do you see i mean, where do you see the biggest threat coming from? i think that they are both big threats, but it seems like georgia is the most imminent. one is just the aggressiveness of fani willis, but also the other in her investigation, it s a little bit more constrained, a little bit more finite, she s only looking at the events that occurred in georgia. i think there s a very strong likelihood that this grand jury would recommend charges, ....

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