sort of reminising about what he tried to do or planning something else. at the end of the video we showed, he talked about the way he hopes elections go in 2022 to put in place, essentially use his playbook. do you think this was planning or reminiscing? well, he talks about, you know, doing a lot of work in the states with state legislators and in a separate video we released today with the president of the claremont institute ryan williams he talks about eastman working with legislators on quote unquote election integrity stuff. you know, i very much see this as an on going attempt to subvert future elections. let me play that. you mentioned john eastman who is the president of the claremont institute. let s play that clip. yeah, i didn t mention it but he s still very involved with a
right? even though we gave them all the evidence, they wouldn t do it. so look, i would i very much wish it were otherwise but i just these guys are spineless and now, now, if we take a bunch of them out in the primaries in 2022 and the precondition for getting elected is we re going to fight this stuff, then maybe we got an opportunity. joining me now is lauren windsor, executive producer of the under current and project exposed. thanks for being here. quick question, were you surprised how open john eastman was in admitting he really did mean when he put it in that memo he intended it to be done given the fact he s denied that to the national review? yes, i was very surprised. i expected him to be more shell shocked honestly because of the incoming flak he described himself in one of the first videos we released. let s talk about whether or not this was just john eastman
officials of their day buys or job to overturn the election in the future and this is how democracies come to an end when the very tools of democracy are used to hurt democracy itself. what do you make of the fact that you have the claremont institute putting the backing behind the big lie, somebody like john eastman who as you said tried to disavow this memo and he s equally committed to it and they re using fake outrage over supposed critical race theory that isn t and ginning up real racial discord among to be blunt white americans to make this all happen. it starts to feel like it s all of a piece. i wonder if it does to you. it absolutely feels like it s all of a piece. we had an open hearing today with the leaders of the intelligence community on
coup. drafted in the days before january 6th that outlined a step by step plan for vice president mike pence to nullify the electoral votes from up to seven states. it was a secret and likely illegal plot to over throw joe biden s presidency before he was even sworn in. then last week we saw eastman suddenly disavow his em moe. in an interview with the national review the architect of the coup memo said having pence reject the notes was not viable and would have been crazy to pursue, however, eastman is under cut his little charade by candidly revealing that he was fully committed to the ideas expressed in his memo. and he says it would have succeeded, too, had it not been for the pesky mike pence. he willingly admits this in a series of undercover videos filmed on saturday by lauren
windsor at an event for the claremont institute, the right wing think thank. windsor identified herself as a trump supporter who had taken part in the insurrection and here is what he said in a portion of her video that we ve edited down. i read your memo and thought it was solid in the single arguments and i was floored that the mike pence didn t do anything. i mean, why didn t he act on it because you gave him the legal reasoning to do that. i know. i know. all your legal reasoning is totally solid. no question. just supported a supporter, why do you think mike pence didn t do it? because mike pence is an establishment guy at the end of the day. in the same conversation, eastman confirmed to windsor and her colleague that it was indeed trump s intention to accompany the mob to the capitol and the