tucker: pablo manriquez is the cofounder at k street media here in washington. he wrote a piece for huffington post. why tucker carlson should debate me on immigration. r we didn t want to forfeit our honor by turning down such a gentlemanly challenge from such a gentleman.gr so we have picked up the gauntlet pablo threw down. the distance will be the width of the table. the weapons will bee words. pablo manriquez joins us. thanks for joining us. an honor to be here. tucker: i m glad to have you. i stipulate this by saying that i m totally for immigration and for immigrants. but i want to know what the parameters are. let me ask you a simple question. we ve got 330 million people in the country. if immigration rates stay at the current level, 1.2 million per year, we re going to have about half a billion people by the end of the century. if we follow the u.n. s lead we would have 1.5 billion people in america by the end of this century. those are estimates.
it s hard to say what the numbers should be now and into the future. and that something that people discuss tucker: let me flip it on its head. so the left-wing assumption, and this has changed a lot in the past ten years, but as of today it appears to be that it s racist to exclude anyone from the country whether you are here legally or illegally. that is an assumption. that s not fair. tucker: what are the limits? who should be able who should we be able to exclude, and on what basis? people who are a danger should be excluded first. thee president has done a good job of attracting that kind of enforcement first priority against people who aret criminal aliens or criminal immigrants or whatever you want to call them. i think the president has also said, and this often gets lost in the debate, that there should be exceptions and that deportation shouldn t necessarily be the only punishment for people come here illegally. is that fair? tucker: i disagree with it, but you
there may have been a loud noise by the vehicle. there s reports that she startled these officers. but we have to take into account they receive the call that a female was being sexually assaulted, so common sense should kick in and say, it is possibly the victim, or is this the 911 caller. i know when i ve answered 911 calls, i always wanted to speak to the caller to get their perspective and see if there is a suspect, to see if weay need to set up a perimeter. i don t understand what led this officer to believe, note only dd he have to take her life, but if you think about it, he put his partner s life in jeopardy by shooting across him. tucker: it s unbelievable. whatever he thought, he could not imagine this was the perpetrator in a sexual assault, you wouldn t think. vincent, thanks a lot. it was really helpful. thank you so much. tucker: canada has made a convicted terrorist a very rich man. will they ever spare a penny for his victims?
it s perfectly fine. what i object to at the time is the breathless and extravagant coverage that these events get. i find myself repeatedly that s interesting, but it s not that big a deal.ys time and time again that is my reaction. i think what we have is a story that has been interesting, worth reporting, worth investigating. but to date, hopelessly overblown. tucker: the second someone can explain what the crime is i will be really interested in this story. because they start talking about a cover up you have to have a cover-up, collusion tucker: i m willing to believe anything. i don t work for thehe administration. they don t send me f money. if you tell me what the allegation obstruction of justice, as your previous guest said, we are a long way from being able to say that. tucker: one more thing. the republican-controlled senate apparently failed to repeal obamacare, and the president has signaled it s time to sit back and let that law fail on itso
billion people, would be a better country than it is now or a worse country? not if it s not sustainable. i think that we currently have a level of immigration that in some ways isav merit-based, buts often not. we also have a lot of unaccounted for immigrants that our crossing the border. the levels of immigration specifically at 1.2 million, seemed to be it seems to be a number that has worked for us up to a point.mb when we up to a point were still building, the housing boom when there are still jobs to sustain them. that number at least in terms of border apprehension as we saw today tucker: this is legal immigration, so basically what you re proving is you have no idea, and neither does anybody else.e. people tell me that they are for more immigration, but to what level? > right. tucker: nobody has thought this through because they don t care. and they should care. in the global flow of toigration, they re going change things.